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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

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  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  D wiltshire

  Wendy,
  Yes I looked up those links you gave me I even printed it ou to read at work, I haven't read all of it.
  And
  Yes your right mommy, I just got home from work and read Julie reply So I posted at the top of my head right away to her reply, and then proceeded to do a net search, and came up with that in about 2 or three minutes.
  There is some very interesting stuff I've read but would not put it up on the net, because I'm not sure if anyone is interested.
  I like it when scientist let the hair down and admit how much they don't know.
  You know the saying that many who leave cults say, "When some one claims they have all the Answers you can be positive they don't".
  That's one reason why people get involved with cults they claim to have all the answers, and it feels good to have all the answers even if it's not true.
  A scientist who admits what he don't know gets more respect from me, and a more attentive ear, because I sense honesty.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Why I Do What I Do - Randy Watters

  by Dogpatch in

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  hi friends,.

  i have been overwhelmed by the number of witnesses contacting me on the net lately.

  traffic to the site has more than tripled since feb. 1999, and i am getting tons of email every day.

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  Randy,

  I too have benifited from your site.
  At first, when still a JW I thought your site was a little too much and that you had an ax to grind (typical JW thinking about anything critical of the Org.).
  I also felt the same about Ray Franz too.
  I thought since you were connected to other sites that you must have the same veiws as these sites as well. Latter on I realized that you did not, and that the thing you have in common with these other sites is a detestation of WT Hypocrisy.
  I hope your site will continue as it holds a wealth of important information for JW's and others.

  Your work is very much appreciated.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Julie,

  Here's an interesting link

  http://www.pbs.org/wnet/hawking/mysteries/html/myst.html

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Julie,

  Off the top of my head Isaac Newton for one.
  Just type Science and God in your search engine.
  Try this link http://www.msnbc.com/news/259788.asp

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Julie,

  Why do I have to substantiate that statement unless you are sure there are not any, so please tell me.
  If you asked that question it must mean you don't beleive there are scientist who beleive in God or else why would you ask it?
  So please tell me do you really beleive all scientist don't beleive in God?
  I mean, do you really beleive that?

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

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  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Julie,

  So are you saying there is no such thing as a scientist that beleives in God? And so feel it's imposible to prove it?

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Abbadon,

  I fail to see your point:
  

  Are you saying that there is a lack of definative closure in some areas of the theory of god? You seem to admit that you cannot prove or understand all of it.
  Beware of attacking others' beliefs when you don't understand the logic of your own!
  8-)

  You yourself admit you don't understand how something can come from nothing.
  Is all that you brought forth to support your position solid with no holes that need to be filled?
  We both live in a glass house my friend.
  Did I throw stones, no I raised questions and stated opinions.

  To be fair, I think you must admit what you say here is simply, your opinion:
  

  We stopped believeing because we found the evidence for the theory of evolution was far more convincing than the evidence for the theory of god.
  To have someone who obviously still believes or would like to believe in the theory of god act like our 'beliefs' are weak and unfounded, when they just have a smattering of knowledge about those theories, is a little annoying.
  We know the holes in your theories; if you are willing to say 'I believe, because I choose to', well, good for you for your honesty.

  As you know theories change as new things are observed, yours are not set in stone.
  As you stated part of my choice to beleive in God is because it is my desire true,.. but part of my choice is it makes the most sense to me, based on what I know.
  I have nothing against science, but feel scientific knowledge will increase for many millions of years and old light will be replaced by new light, theories about the begining of everything, will come and go as the old gets debunked by the the new.
  You may have more scientific knowledge than me, and for that I salute you. I'm sure you agree the more man learns about his world, the more questions he also asks that need to be answered.
  You also must agree that their are many scientist that are respected by their peers, who beleive that the great first cause is God.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Abbadon,

  As I already stated in honesty that I don't claim to understand God's ways.
  The Bible teaches that's Jesus Christ died for our sins, so that we could get everlasing life.
  I don't clearly understand the legal aspects of it all, I have faith that the Bible is God's word and do beleive Jesus died for us, but don't claim to understand all the legal aspects of the whole arrangement.

  As for choices 1,2,or 3 I chose none of the above.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  Lark,

  Looking over my past statements I think I must, make a correction.
  Yes, many scientist work very hard to uncover facts.
  Yes, theories that they formulate are are reasonable from present knowlege of observable facts.
  Do they take in all variables no, for that would leave them with too many uncertainties.
  They may presuppose certain things to be true. Such as our universe is a closed system.
  Or that observable laws governing matter are always the same where ever you go in the universe or outside the universe.
  Such things while sounding true based on observable facts may not neccesarily be true under conditions and laws not yet observable.
  Granted we have to start with the observable.
  No one has seen a singularity as thought to have existed.
  Do I beleive that all matter in the universe came from a singularity?
  Yes, at least very possible in my mind, but not with out some reasonable doubts, Hey a singularity could have been brought to birth by God himself, and seems to many who beleive in God as the way God caused the univers to be.
  Let me repeat myself as I have already stated on this thread. I don't disbeleive in evolution, could God creative works when examined by scientist reveal a gradual proccess that took millions of years, well if scientist are correct the answer is yes.
  But as a layman, I don't understand the proof of how they can say this with certainty.

  Lark you did help me to better see the need to be not so quick to dismiss out of hand what scientist say if it doesn't go along with my ideas of God and for that I thank you, and (Abbadon too, ouch! as I get off my fat ass)
  But as you all must agree the book is not closed and the jury is still out as to the existance of God.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?
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  Book to learn to play guitar??

  by Nicolas in

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  i know it may sound strange to have a post like this in this forum but as i've always got good answer to my questions here and because i find this forum therapeutic, i ask you if you know a good website or a book to learn to play guitar?

  as some of you know, i have some problems with my self-esteem and i feel that if i do some developing activities like this, it will help me.

  and, finally i wish that i didn't made any faults because i still have some difficulties with my english...

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  Nic,

  I play guitar very poorly.
  But get a metronome and learn good timming and you will progress a lot faster.
  Timing is very very important.

  If someone lived a trillion X longer than you, and had a billion X more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?